GCYM Conversations: Dr. Brent Bounds on Developmental Stages and Adolescent Spirituality

brentboundsDr. Brent Bounds is a clinical psychologist and the Director of Family Ministries and Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York City, serving alongside Tim Keller. Dr. Bounds is also two more things: (1) a workshop presenter at next month’s Rooted conference, and (2) our guest today on GCYM Conversations, in which he gives a snapshot/preview version of that very same workshop.

You can follow Dr. Bounds on twitter at @brentbounds, just as you can poke around his website for more info. Also, Dr. Bounds mentioned a 4 hour workshop he did on some of these same subjects, which you can get by going to this site.

This is the third podcast we’ve recorded in conjunction with the fine folks at Rooted to preview their conference, so if you missed our conversations with Cameron Cole (on the Rooted conference and the place of doctrine in youth ministry) or Mark Howard (on how to teach Revelation), go check those out. 

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Enjoy!

Download: Dr. Brent Bounds on Developmental Stages and Adolescent Spirituality

GCYM Conversations: Mark Howard Isn’t Afraid to Teach Revelation

Mark Howard PictureEarlier this week, previous GCYM Conversations guest Mark Howard published an article at The Gospel Coalition on teaching the book of Revelation to youth. In line with that and in anticipation of his workshop on the same subject at the Rooted Conference in about a month, Mark joined Faris to talk through why and how you can teach Revelation to your students.

Mark currently works with ELAM Ministries, a fantastic organization that works to help strengthen churches in Iran. He also has over five years’ experience as a youth pastor, and is on both the Board of Advisors and Conference Steering Committee for Rooted.

At the end of the conversation, Faris and Mark talked about a few helpful books if you’re studying or teaching Revelation. So for your convenience, here are Amazon links to all of them:

If you’re interested in more of what Elam does, check out Iran30, a 30-day prayer guide for the Iranian church. Also, for more preview of the Rooted Conference, check out Faris and Kyle’s conversation with Cameron Cole.

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Enjoy!

Download: Mark Howard Isn’t Afraid to Teach Revelation

GCYM Conversations: Cameron Cole In a World of Mixed Messages

Cameron ColeCameron Cole is the Director of Youth Ministries at Cathedral Church of the Advent in Birmingham, AL, the Chairman of Rooted Ministry, and Faris and Kyle’s guest on this episode of GCYM Conversations.

The Rooted Conference is less than two months away (Oct. 9-11, and it gets more expensive on Sep. 1, so sign up now!), so we had Cameron preview some of what you will experience there if you go (which we couldn’t recommend more highly). The theme of the conference is “Truth In a World of Mixed Messages”, and talking about that got us going on how we teach doctrine and theology (it is Theology Week, after all!) in order to help our students navigate those mixed messages.

If you aren’t familiar with Rooted, Cameron talked more about its genesis and what they are trying to accomplish last time he was on the podcast. Check that out.

You can subscribe to everything we do with GCYM Audio on iTunes, where we’d also love it if you’d rate and review us. Also, don’t forget to email us your questions for the next episode of the podcast at godcenteredyouthministry {at} gmail {dot} com.

Enjoy!

Download: Cameron Cole In a World of Mixed Messages

GCYM Conversations: Cameron Cole, Chief Everything of Rooted

Cameron ColeFive months ago, Lindquist, Kyle and I went to Atlanta to attend the Rooted conference. That was our first full-scale exposure to Rooted, and since then, well, we’ve been unabashed Rooted fan boys. We loved everything about the conference, just as we’ve also loved the Rooted blog while we count down the days until next year’s conference. It’s no stretch to say that Rooted is the premier gospel-centered youth ministry organization out there right now.

Which is why I couldn’t be more excited about having Cameron Cole as my guest on this episode of GCYM Conversations. Cameron and I first discussed taking time to do a podcast back in Atlanta, but we just couldn’t find time to do it. And while I’m a little ashamed it’s taken us this long to get the founder and Big Cheese of Rooted on since, I’m also just glad it finally happened. So here we are, talking about Rooted’s past and future and all things gospel-centered youth ministry.

The GCYM crew all love Cameron, and we’re confident you’ll feel the same way. We’re also confident that this won’t be the last time you hear from him on our site. Take a listen, then go follow Rooted and prioritize getting to the conference this next year (and hey, if you listen to this podcast, you’ll hear Cameron divulge who the keynote speaker will be, which privileged knowledge you can hold over the heads of your youth ministry friends, and what’s better than that?).

As always, don’t hesitate to send your questions to godcenteredyouthministry (at) gmail (dot) com, subscribe to us on iTunes, and rate and review us there as well.

Enjoy!

Download: GCYM Conversations: Cameron Cole, Chief Everything of Rooted

Making Disciples in Youth Ministry: What Should We Focus On?

It is easy to get distracted in youth ministry. In my own life, numbers, deadlines, planning events, and dealing with expectations of others can all become the prominent focus in my mind. Yet, to be faithful ministers of the Gospel we must never forget our true calling and purpose.

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Ultimately, the goal of youth ministry is to train high school students to be faithful disciples of Jesus. We must never lose sight of this. Everything we do – the events we plan, the sermons we preach, and the camps we attend – should ultimately focus on training disciples.

But what does it mean to train disciples? More specifically, as we seek to make disciples, what should we focus on fostering and cultivating in our students? As I’ve pondered this question, I’ve benefited greatly from the words I heard Alvin Reid share at the Rooted Conference last year (he got them from someone else, but I don’t know who, so Reid gets the credit for now). Dr. Reid said that youth ministers should focus on three things: orthodoxy, orthopraxy, and orthopathy.

Orthodoxy – Right Thinking (Knowing God)

Our students cannot follow Jesus if they do not know who He is. Thus, we must care deeply that our students think correctly about God’s character and His calling. We must preach Scripture faithfully, create space for questions, help them wrestle with difficult doctrine, and teach difficult theology. Do not underestimate your students because they are young. Teach the whole counsel of God faithfully, and challenge them to think hard.

Summary: Training in orthodoxy means teaching our students to know God through theology and Scripture.

Orthopraxy – Right Practice (Obeying God)

Being a disciple does not simply entail knowing who God is, but faithfully obeying His commands. Theological knowledge does not immediately transform living. Therefore we must create space, preach sermons, and foster community that aids our students to actually grow in obedience. Recognize that the application portion of your sermons is not a tack-on, but an integral time to help students understand how they can follow God. Ask questions that gently press on their souls, compelling them to reflect on where sin continues to reside. Create a culture in church that does not simply value knowing who God is, but values obedience and faithful living as well.

Summary: Training in orthopraxy means teaching our students to actively obey God by submitting to Him.

Orthopathy – Right Affections (Loving God)

The world fights for our students’ affections. Advertisement, music, money, popularity, acceptance, and success all cry out to our students, beckoning them to come and find satisfaction in them. The world encourages our students to idolize and prioritize everything and anything over God. As youth pastors, it is our job to help our students constantly realign their love so that God is their ultimate prize. Every week, the world rattles our students and calls them away from God, and every week we must preach and pastor in a way that stirs their affections so that they love God first and most.

Summary: Training in orthopathy means teaching our students to love God above all else.

Obviously, all three of these areas overlap and affect one another. Love for God drives us to obey Him and know Him. Obedience helps us understand who God is and is a means of loving God. Knowing God is the foundation for our love and obedience.

We all know this, but most of us are probably naturally inclined to focus on certain aspects while neglecting others. Take stock of your ministry: are you giving real attention to each of these?

A disciple is a follower of Jesus who knows God, obeys God, and loves God. As youth ministers, we must be faithful to preach, pastor, and train in a way that values each of these areas so that our students can be faithful and holistic disciples of God.

Rooted Reflections from Cameron Cole, Founder of Rooted

Cameron ColeThis will be the last Rooted conference post on GCYM, and it won’t even be our own material this time. Instead, we figured we should point you to Cameron Cole’s post at the Rooted blog. Cameron is the founder and chairman of Rooted (both the website and the conference) and an all-around swell guy. He has 5 main reflections from the conference:

  1. Everyone needs to be reminded of the Gospel again and again and again.
  2. No ministry has it all together; we all have our areas of insufficiency.
  3. In trying to do Gospel-centered ministry in this day and age, one is cutting against the grain and likely all alone.
  4. Attractional ministry seems exhausting.
  5. The body of Christ is beautiful.

Check out his full post to see how he unpacks each of them.

And again, thank you, Cameron and the Rooted team, for your ministry to us!

GCYM Audio: An Interview with Collin Hansen

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The third and final of our interviews from the Rooted conference was with Collin Hansen, Editorial Director of The Gospel Coalition. This time it was just Faris who sat down with Hansen, and the two discussed what Hansen was doing at Rooted (he was not a speaker or presenter and isn’t in youth ministry!) and The Gospel Coalition’s role in promoting gospel-centered youth ministry.

Download: Collin Hansen Interview

After blowing it in the first two interviews, Faris finally figured out how to properly promote an interviewee’s online presence and books. But in case you missed it, here’s how to track down Hansen’s work:

Twitter: @collinhansen

Books:

Young, Restless, Reformed
A God-Sized Vision

Also, be sure to check out our other two interviews from the Rooted conference with Jared Wilson and Dr. Alvin Reid.

GCYM Audio: An Interview with Dr. Alvin Reid

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Below is interview #2 from the Rooted conference in Atlanta last weekend. This time both Andrew’s sat down with Dr. Alvin Reid, Professor of Evangelism and Student Ministry at Southeastern Baptist Seminary and author of As You Go: Creating a Missional Culture of Gospel-Centered Students, to talk about the state of the youth ministry conversation and giving students a vision of God’s glory worth giving their lives too now.

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Download: Dr. Alvin Reid Interview

Dr. Reid’s passion for student ministry is infectious and his application of gospel-centeredness and missional thinking to student ministry are unique and refreshing. If you’re in student ministry, check out his website (which includes his blog), follow him on twitter, and make sure to pick up a copy of his book.

Also, don’t miss our first interview from Rooted with Jared Wilson.

GCYM Audio: An Interview with Jared Wilson

jaredwilsonAt last weekend’s Rooted conference, Faris and Kyle sat down with pastor, author, and blogger, Jared Wilson to get his thoughts on the gospel-centered movement, how it applies to youth ministry, and why a senior pastor and self-proclaimed not-fit-for-youth-ministry guy chose to speak at a youth ministry conference. Just try to extend grace when we all wrongly attribute “Mo Money Mo Problems” to Tupac instead of Notorious B.I.G.

DownloadJared Wilson Interview 

Faris showed his true colors as an interviewing rookie by screwing up the name of Wilson’s blog and not knowing what his most recent books were, but that doesn’t mean you can’t track all that stuff down anyway:

Blog: Gospel-Driven Church

Twitter: @jaredcwilson

Books:

The Pastor’s Justification
Gospel Deeps
Gospel Wakefulness
Otherworld

Recapping the Rooted Conference

Last weekend the whole GCYM gang had the joy of attending the Rooted conference out in Atlanta. This was the third year of the Rooted conference, but the first for each of the three of us. The theme was “Hope in a Time of Suffering,” and Jared Wilson was the keynote speaker.

Rooted, both as a conference and a ministry/blog more broadly, is doing a lot of what we are trying to do at GCYM, so we thought we would spend our first few days here with some follow-up on what we saw there. In the next couple days we will post some audio interviews we grabbed while at the conference, but today, here is each of our recaps of our time at Rooted.

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Andrew Faris

When I think of a youth ministry conference, I think of rows of seats in big auditoriums with loud bands, flashing lights, and high energy from start to finish. The goal seems to be not only to inform attendees, but to pump them up.

Rooted was nothing like this. It was small (about 60 people), and we sat at round tables for the weekend. Nearly everyone stayed together for meals (which were included in the cost). The band was comprised of two acoustic guitars, a violin, a male singer, and two female singers. The cumulative effect, at least for me, was feeling a sense of community and rest.

“Refreshing,” in fact, may be the primary word I would use to describe Rooted. Wilson’s preaching completed this for me. How wonderful to hear again from God’s Word that I am fully loved and forgiven by God in Christ! My life and ministry, I was reminded, stems from my identity in Christ.  It is God’s holiness, sovereignty, and glory that will sustain me and my students in suffering. These were the dominant notes at Rooted, and I loved it.

As someone who came into the weekend feeling spiritually tired and dry, I did not need a conference that tried to pump me up with atmosphere. I needed rest in the gospel. I am deeply grateful that Rooted did just this, and I will almost certainly attend again next year.

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Andrew Lindquist

In 2011, Wayne Rice of Youth Specialities commented,

“We got what we wanted. We turned youth ministry into the toy department of the church. Churches now hire professionals to lead youth ministry. We got relevance but we created a generation of teenagers who are a mile wide and an inch deep.”

It is the truth of this insight that has driven the three of us to ask the question, “how do we get back to God-Centered youth ministry?” It was from this question that the Rooted Conference was born.

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During my first year of youth ministry a wise mentor told me to keep my eyes fixed on Christ and as I journeyed along, focused on him, to be watchful for other brothers and sisters who are walking the same road. They are gifts of grace from God. Cherish those relationships. Rooted was a gift of grace for the three of us. We all left the conference with or hearts stirred to show our students the goodness and sovereignty of God in a hard, broken world.

There are too many highlights from the conference to mention all of them. One particular highlight for me was Dr. Alvin Reid’s workshop entitled, “Creating a Missional Culture of Gospel Centered Students,” in which he gave three things that, in his opinion, students need most from their youth ministers.

  1. A Vision: Students need someone to come along side them and give them a vision as big as God! As youth pastors, we ought to be holding up the glory of God to our youth and helping them discern how God might want to use them to do incredible things in the context he has placed them in.
  1. Encouragement: Students need someone to believe in them! When children are young we are excited about every achievement, but once they reach high school we often tend to focus on pointing out areas they need to work on. Encourage them not to fulfill their agenda but to fulfill God’s agenda for them.
  1. Permission: Tell them that they can do something for God…right now! Give them permission to try something radical for God and the assurance that if they fail it’s OK.

He ended his talk with a quote from E. Stanley Jones. When Jones was asked how he had managed to make disciples out of students who others had written off, he replied, “I take students, put a crown over their head, and help them grow into it.” This is the heart of student ministry.

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Kyle Lundquist

God does not forsake us or abandon us in our suffering.

As I listened to Cameron Cole (the Founder of Rooted) speak this past weekend, I was reminded that relationship with God is a life-altering reality that Christians are allowed to enjoy. Life is guaranteed to bring suffering – or as Cameron worded it, we will “eat gravel”  – yet God walks with us in our pain, sanctifies amid hardship, and exalts His name through our suffering.

The Gospel reveals the beautiful reality that the Holy God of the universe loves me and calls me into sweet submission. This does not render the pain in suffering any less painful, but it does provide real hope in the midst of hardship. Tears will still be shed, pain will continue to hurt, and suffering will always be difficult to endure – but I am not alone. God is with me. God sees those tears, he knows my pain, and He does not abandon in difficulty. In Christ there is real joy and hope in suffering as God redeems and uses the pain we endure.

Apart from God, suffering can only lead to despair. But with God, we can cry out with the Psalmist, “My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever.” (Psalm 73:26)

I was incredibly blessed by the Rooted conference, and I cannot wait for next year. It was refreshing to be at a youth conference with no smoke machines or games of chubby bunny. Instead, I was encouraged to find a community of like-minded youth ministers with a decisive desire to root youth ministry on God’s power for His glory. Doesn’t get much better then that.

Oh and did I mention that the conference was in Atlanta, which means I ate the greatest fried chicken in my life? Mary Mac’s Tea Room definitely beat my California options of KFC or the frozen section at the grocery store…

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Thank you, Cameron Cole and the rest of the Rooted team for such a fantastic weekend! We are truly grateful, and we would recommend the conference next year to any youth workers without any hesitation. Hopefully we’ll see more of you there!